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	<title>Comments on: Wired pwns Jason Calacanis</title>
	<link>http://www.neomeme.net/2007/04/25/wired-pwns-jason-calacanis/</link>
	<description>Traversing the new memes that define us</description>
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		<title>By: Tylenol.</title>
		<link>http://www.neomeme.net/2007/04/25/wired-pwns-jason-calacanis/#comment-7489</link>
		<author>Tylenol.</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Tylenol....&lt;/strong&gt;

Tylenol....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Tylenol&#8230;.</strong></p>
<p>Tylenol&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom O'Leary</title>
		<link>http://www.neomeme.net/2007/04/25/wired-pwns-jason-calacanis/#comment-549</link>
		<author>Tom O'Leary</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.neomeme.net/2007/04/25/wired-pwns-jason-calacanis/#comment-549</guid>
		<description>...and we want to be engaged in it all. Not merely as readers; but creators and active participants in the discussions taking place (as evidenced by yesterday's conversations about this topic which were tracked by techmeme, digg, reddit, etc.)

As content consumers, we are ravenous today; but our attention shifts quickly and focus is spread across multiple ongoing streams of conversation taking place continuously over different platforms (blogs, twitter, discussion boards, email, RSS feeds, multimedia, etc.) As a matter of fact, I'm shifting now from this topic to an entirely different focus - gotta run!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and we want to be engaged in it all. Not merely as readers; but creators and active participants in the discussions taking place (as evidenced by yesterday&#8217;s conversations about this topic which were tracked by techmeme, digg, reddit, etc.)</p>
<p>As content consumers, we are ravenous today; but our attention shifts quickly and focus is spread across multiple ongoing streams of conversation taking place continuously over different platforms (blogs, twitter, discussion boards, email, RSS feeds, multimedia, etc.) As a matter of fact, I&#8217;m shifting now from this topic to an entirely different focus - gotta run!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom O'Leary</title>
		<link>http://www.neomeme.net/2007/04/25/wired-pwns-jason-calacanis/#comment-548</link>
		<author>Tom O'Leary</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.neomeme.net/2007/04/25/wired-pwns-jason-calacanis/#comment-548</guid>
		<description>Hi Fred. Techmeme tracks conversations that take place on the Internet. It isn't purely algorithmic in nature and there are human players who vet the content that appears to ensure that it is relevant to the original discussion and from a reputable source. I'm not sure how this vetting is done though. I do know that I wrote two commentaries on the subject yesterday and my blog wasn't included in the discussion thread on techmeme. I guess I'm not in the reputable category yet.

What surprises me most about this ongoing conversation is the platform-centric views of both parties involved. Communication can be effective over multiple platforms, and I would expect most people today to be somewhat flexible in this regard. In online marketing, for example, campaigns are seldom run on only one of the existing communication platforms on the web. Effective communication involves a combination of  email, RSS, blogs, discussion boards, multimedia, search engines and even (shock horror) traditional comm channels to reach targeted audiences.

The reality is that although A-list bloggers play an important role in online communication, their audience is not all that large. There are local newspapers with readerships larger than many of the leading blogs. That said, their audience is generally highly targeted to particular subcultures on the Internet (tech, mothers, politics, etc). Steve Rubel recently posted a graph from Forrester Research which shows that 52 percent of the US online-audience doesn't participate in reading blogs, creating content, using RSS or other activities online: http://www.micropersuasion.com/2007/04/forresters_part.html

That said, the A-list bloggers and other new technology participants are the early adapters that are at the forefront of the shift from traditional media to interactive conversations on the Internet. As we evolve, we are seeing a growing demand for a more continuous flow of information that comes to us in a personalized form.

All the best

Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Fred. Techmeme tracks conversations that take place on the Internet. It isn&#8217;t purely algorithmic in nature and there are human players who vet the content that appears to ensure that it is relevant to the original discussion and from a reputable source. I&#8217;m not sure how this vetting is done though. I do know that I wrote two commentaries on the subject yesterday and my blog wasn&#8217;t included in the discussion thread on techmeme. I guess I&#8217;m not in the reputable category yet.</p>
<p>What surprises me most about this ongoing conversation is the platform-centric views of both parties involved. Communication can be effective over multiple platforms, and I would expect most people today to be somewhat flexible in this regard. In online marketing, for example, campaigns are seldom run on only one of the existing communication platforms on the web. Effective communication involves a combination of  email, RSS, blogs, discussion boards, multimedia, search engines and even (shock horror) traditional comm channels to reach targeted audiences.</p>
<p>The reality is that although A-list bloggers play an important role in online communication, their audience is not all that large. There are local newspapers with readerships larger than many of the leading blogs. That said, their audience is generally highly targeted to particular subcultures on the Internet (tech, mothers, politics, etc). Steve Rubel recently posted a graph from Forrester Research which shows that 52 percent of the US online-audience doesn&#8217;t participate in reading blogs, creating content, using RSS or other activities online: <a href="http://www.micropersuasion.com/2007/04/forresters_part.html" >http://www.micropersuasion.com/2007/04/forresters_part.html</a></p>
<p>That said, the A-list bloggers and other new technology participants are the early adapters that are at the forefront of the shift from traditional media to interactive conversations on the Internet. As we evolve, we are seeing a growing demand for a more continuous flow of information that comes to us in a personalized form.</p>
<p>All the best</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Calacanis vs Wired on Phone Interview &#187; SELaplana</title>
		<link>http://www.neomeme.net/2007/04/25/wired-pwns-jason-calacanis/#comment-553</link>
		<author>Jason Calacanis vs Wired on Phone Interview &#187; SELaplana</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 08:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.neomeme.net/2007/04/25/wired-pwns-jason-calacanis/#comment-553</guid>
		<description>[...] Calacanis was arrogant. I think, some of the bloggers who read how he reacts with some issues through his blog will call [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Calacanis was arrogant. I think, some of the bloggers who read how he reacts with some issues through his blog will call [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: kuipercliff</title>
		<link>http://www.neomeme.net/2007/04/25/wired-pwns-jason-calacanis/#comment-547</link>
		<author>kuipercliff</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 05:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.neomeme.net/2007/04/25/wired-pwns-jason-calacanis/#comment-547</guid>
		<description>Whatever happened to medium as message? You ask via email, you get email-filtered answers, you ask in-person, you get more immediate answers. Fred's right - I can't understand what the fuss is about. Incest is alive and well: the "blogosphere" should realise that it's part of, and should aspire to being part of, the broader media dialogue. Perhaps not playing up these schoolyard spats would be a start. You've written about A-listers, Ilya, and the only reason this 'story' made it to your front page is they're A-listers. Non-representative, yet perfectly typical also. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever happened to medium as message? You ask via email, you get email-filtered answers, you ask in-person, you get more immediate answers. Fred&#8217;s right - I can&#8217;t understand what the fuss is about. Incest is alive and well: the &#8220;blogosphere&#8221; should realise that it&#8217;s part of, and should aspire to being part of, the broader media dialogue. Perhaps not playing up these schoolyard spats would be a start. You&#8217;ve written about A-listers, Ilya, and the only reason this &#8217;story&#8217; made it to your front page is they&#8217;re A-listers. Non-representative, yet perfectly typical also. <img src='http://www.neomeme.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Fred Vogelstein</title>
		<link>http://www.neomeme.net/2007/04/25/wired-pwns-jason-calacanis/#comment-555</link>
		<author>Fred Vogelstein</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 05:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.neomeme.net/2007/04/25/wired-pwns-jason-calacanis/#comment-555</guid>
		<description>The whole thing shocked the heck out of me, that's for sure. Wish someone would explain to me how techmeme works, cuz I still can't understand what the fuss is about.

Makes me wonder about all those folks who have become champions of algorithms instead of human editors, though. Was this really the most important story in the world of high tech today? C'mon.

Bottom line: there isn't a right or wrong answer when it comes to the best way to interview people. I insist on phone or in person, but that's just what I've found works best for me after 22 years as a journalist. Jason says phone isn't a good use of his time. I say email isn't a good use of my time. Big deal. There isn't a day that goes by where I ask for an interview and get turned away. No one talks to me to do me any favors. If they think they can get something out of it, they say yes. If there is too much downside, they say no.

Fred Vogelstein
Wired Magazine
415 276 4922</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole thing shocked the heck out of me, that&#8217;s for sure. Wish someone would explain to me how techmeme works, cuz I still can&#8217;t understand what the fuss is about.</p>
<p>Makes me wonder about all those folks who have become champions of algorithms instead of human editors, though. Was this really the most important story in the world of high tech today? C&#8217;mon.</p>
<p>Bottom line: there isn&#8217;t a right or wrong answer when it comes to the best way to interview people. I insist on phone or in person, but that&#8217;s just what I&#8217;ve found works best for me after 22 years as a journalist. Jason says phone isn&#8217;t a good use of his time. I say email isn&#8217;t a good use of my time. Big deal. There isn&#8217;t a day that goes by where I ask for an interview and get turned away. No one talks to me to do me any favors. If they think they can get something out of it, they say yes. If there is too much downside, they say no.</p>
<p>Fred Vogelstein<br />
Wired Magazine<br />
415 276 4922</p>
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		<title>By: engtech</title>
		<link>http://www.neomeme.net/2007/04/25/wired-pwns-jason-calacanis/#comment-552</link>
		<author>engtech</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 04:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.neomeme.net/2007/04/25/wired-pwns-jason-calacanis/#comment-552</guid>
		<description>I thought this was the best sum up of it:
http://www.crunchnotes.com/?p=386</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought this was the best sum up of it:<br />
<a href="http://www.crunchnotes.com/?p=386" >http://www.crunchnotes.com/?p=386</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tom O'Leary</title>
		<link>http://www.neomeme.net/2007/04/25/wired-pwns-jason-calacanis/#comment-554</link>
		<author>Tom O'Leary</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 03:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.neomeme.net/2007/04/25/wired-pwns-jason-calacanis/#comment-554</guid>
		<description>Understandable. As the story unfolds, I'm simply becoming more and more amused by it all. If they don't move on, they'll clog the tubes soon with it all.

We can try to be objective - but it appears that the mob prefers it when we're at each other's throats. One aspect of traditional media that hasn't changed since the rebirth of the Internet: Dog bites man isn't news. Man bites dog is. Now if Jason would just bite the reporter, then we'd have a story on our hands.

All the best

Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Understandable. As the story unfolds, I&#8217;m simply becoming more and more amused by it all. If they don&#8217;t move on, they&#8217;ll clog the tubes soon with it all.</p>
<p>We can try to be objective - but it appears that the mob prefers it when we&#8217;re at each other&#8217;s throats. One aspect of traditional media that hasn&#8217;t changed since the rebirth of the Internet: Dog bites man isn&#8217;t news. Man bites dog is. Now if Jason would just bite the reporter, then we&#8217;d have a story on our hands.</p>
<p>All the best</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: Ilya Lichtenstein</title>
		<link>http://www.neomeme.net/2007/04/25/wired-pwns-jason-calacanis/#comment-551</link>
		<author>Ilya Lichtenstein</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 02:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.neomeme.net/2007/04/25/wired-pwns-jason-calacanis/#comment-551</guid>
		<description>Tom,
I assumed that by saying this was no big deal you were criticizing Calacanis for making a big deal out of it. It was his indignant post that started this whole thing.

But of course we bloggers must always remain objective :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,<br />
I assumed that by saying this was no big deal you were criticizing Calacanis for making a big deal out of it. It was his indignant post that started this whole thing.</p>
<p>But of course we bloggers must always remain objective <img src='http://www.neomeme.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Tom O'Leary</title>
		<link>http://www.neomeme.net/2007/04/25/wired-pwns-jason-calacanis/#comment-550</link>
		<author>Tom O'Leary</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 02:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.neomeme.net/2007/04/25/wired-pwns-jason-calacanis/#comment-550</guid>
		<description>I'm not sure how you interpreted either of my two posts about this as siding with anyone. I think that the whole thing is nuts. If you read my latest post, my objectivity might be a bit clearer.

http://www.messagingtimes.com/blog/?p=834

Stuff like this is mad. A story about an interview that didn't happen getting more press than interviews that do is evidence of the new media in action.

All the best

Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure how you interpreted either of my two posts about this as siding with anyone. I think that the whole thing is nuts. If you read my latest post, my objectivity might be a bit clearer.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.messagingtimes.com/blog/?p=834" >http://www.messagingtimes.com/blog/?p=834</a></p>
<p>Stuff like this is mad. A story about an interview that didn&#8217;t happen getting more press than interviews that do is evidence of the new media in action.</p>
<p>All the best</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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